What Is Hybrid Trap?

@Dooossss I don't usually bother pointing this out, but this time it's relevant: you've been a member for 5 years with a total of 11 posts. It's no surprise, then, that you aren't aware of the process we have for creating new subsections. Hybrid Trap faced some resistance when it was proposed as an idea for a new subsection, just as almost every other subsection ever created. The members of the community who proposed it and supported it had to make their case. They had to search the forums for existing Hybrid Trap song threads—which is no small task—and they came up with around 120.

We don't invent new sub-genres (nor do we name them). We do, however, acknowledge them when they come around and become prominent enough to warrant a new subsection. Even then it's not something that happens easily or quickly—considering how amorphous some sub-genres can be—but we're a community dedicated to electronic music, so we certainly aren't going to bury our heads in the sane and try to deny new sub-genres just because it might cause some confusion. Our members are smart. If they aren't familiar with every sub-genre here, then they're at least familiar with the ones they enjoy. So if they enjoy Hybrid Trap, then they're aware of it and understand what it is. If they don't enjoy it, then the fact that it exists doesn't really pose a problem.

As always, I'm a fan of constructive criticism... but the "constructive" part is important.

@Arcendus That wasn't meant to be "constructive" criticism anyway. Don't get mad about it just because you started this thread. I was referring more to the overly specific explanation that @illgredient gave. No one cares how many posts you guys have and just because you all argued about this for a little while on a thread on clubland doesn't mean it should be that way forever.

Nobody said you guys should "deny" any subgenres, I'm just saying you shouldn't be RENAMING subgenres that have already existed for years and giving them ridiculously specific explanations, limiting the growth of the subgenre itself, just so you guys can feel like you were the ones that coined or created them or something.

How about you all post some of your "hybrid trap" tracks up? You guys should be able to create an exact idea of what a hybrid trap song should be if y'all know as much as you think you do, right? You guys should be like the gods of making hybrid trap. If you don't post anything of your own up, how are we supposed to believe that you all are the authority on this? Your post count??? Lmfao

@Dooossss You seem to have a lot of pent up anger that's being misdirected toward... a subsection that's named after its corresponding sub-genre on an electronic music forum.

Here's some reading material:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hybrid+trap

http://edm.com/articles/2014-05-06/hybrid-trap-1

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monstercat/comments/2te9i3/whats_the_difference_between_trap_and_hybrid_trap/

http://runthetrap.com/tag/hybrid/

http://www.loopmasters.com/products/4055-Heavy-Hybrid-Trap

https://www.mixcloud.com/discover/hybrid-trap/

https://primeloops.com/hybrid-trap.html

http://www.zenhiser.com/hybrid-trap-stems.html

https://splice.com/sounds/prime-loops/hybrid-trap

Google: Hybrid Trap

@Arcendus Linking to a reddit post that doesn't say anything relevant and an edm.com article don't exactly help your case. You also can't really use sample packs as an example because they base it on what they see a lot of people on the internet doing. It could literally be the same samples in hybrid trap and trapstep sample packs and most people wouldn't know because the type of producers that would actually buy that stuff don't know any better. They just wanna sell their packs, period. Look at all these links from some of the same sample companies using trapstep as a term:

http://www.futureloops.com/product-trap-step-evolution.php
https://primeloops.com/trapstep.html
http://www.loopmasters.com/genres/94-Trap/products/2306-Trapstep-Warrior

I'm not even advocating for it to be called trapstep instead, or really even giving a fuck about this sub genre in general but it's an easy way for me to explain something that's been bothering me about clubland for a while. It's so fucking weird how once some people on clubland decide the rules or name of a subgenre, it just is. I don't see how hybrid trap is a good name because by definition "hybrid" would mean it's another sound combined with trap, right? What if you wanted to combine punk music and trap. Would that be trap punk or hybrid trap? 

Interestingly enough, I noticed on Herobust's soundcloud that he listed a track as trapstep 2 years ago and hybrid trap 6 months ago. If they're different genres, what makes them different? Does he see them as 2 separate genres or did he just do that once people on clubland started coining it as hybrid instead of trapstep? 

What specifically requires it to be hybrid trap as opposed to trapstep and why can't we just use the terms trap or dubstep instead? I'm assuming that trapstep is more dubstep while hybrid trap is more trap? What if it's exactly 50/50? Who should be allowed to decide the rules of a subgenre? Should clubland moderators and lame blog writers be the subgenre police of the internet or should the artist themselves be the only ones that get to decide?

I'm pretty sure the reason we even feel the need for subgenres in the first place is because of a struggle to explain a certain sound we want to hear more of. In theory, it seems way easier to coin a subgenre than have people very specifically explain what sounds they like in trap or dubstep but all that does is put the responsibility on whoever is coining the subgenre as opposed to the person looking for that type of music and idk if people here should have that kind of responsibility in the first place. 
 

1 hour ago, Dooossss said:

It's so fucking weird how once some people on clubland decide the rules or name of a subgenre, it just is. I don't see how hybrid trap is a good name because by definition "hybrid" would mean it's another sound combined with trap, right? What if you wanted to combine punk music and trap. Would that be trap punk or hybrid trap? 

@Dooossss These sub-genres exists long before we acknowledge what they're most prominently referred to as or identify what songs within the sub-genre have in common. Note, we aren't deciding the rules or naming/re-naming anything. We're simply being receptive of what already exists and relaying that reality in the form of a "What Is ____?" sticky thread in order to educate members, serve as a reference, and to keep our forum organized. If someone wants to hear Trap + Dubstep, they know to come to this section because that particular sound is most prominently referred to as "Hybrid Trap". Is that the most appropriate term this particular sub-genre could possibly have? Nope. Hybrid Trap sounds like it encompasses a genre that's a hell of a lot broader than the way it's actually used. It sounds as if it could, indeed, be referring to Trap + Punk, or Trap + any genre at all. But the collective internet somehow decided that Hybrid Trap is what this music is called, and because Clubland isn't an omnipotent authority that can overrule genre names or tell the entire music world what's best, well, we simply name the subsection accordingly and throw together a brief outline as to what it consists of.

Haven't been around in awhile but it's nice to come back and see this sub-genre forum alive and well.

I remember the process we went through to have it put in place, good to know it wasn't all in vein.

GG CLLV 

there was a lot of shit given by quite a few members because i didnt instantly make this subgenre but tbh i think this subgenre is a mistake

here is why

https://soundcloud.com/pegboardnerds/pegboard-nerds-x-misterwives

Dubstep at 87 BPM = Drumstep

just because this tune has a trap 2nd drop doesn't mean anything.

there are a million and a half tunes out there that have a different style 2nd drop.

https://soundcloud.com/candcofficial/miskatonik-original-mixdown

sounds like regular old dubstep to me....

https://soundcloud.com/trapmusic/the-limit-by-laxx-edm-com

dubstep with minimalistic layering that is repetitive = Riddim

https://soundcloud.com/lindien/apashe-battle-royale-vip

multikick setup with light repetitiveness = trap

just like back then, STILL have no idea what defines "hybrid trap"

The sickest artist in Hybrid Trap right now is Runnit IMPO

On 12/24/2015 at 3:03 PM, Cancel🐐 said:

 

Wish we could see this video.