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Producers: What do you want to learn? [2017]


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How's it going guys? EVO here again and this time I have another question for ya, and I'm super interested in the answers of this one...

 

 

What do you want to learn?

1. What genre do you want to learn how to produce?

(Meaning one you don't understand right now, but want to.)

2. What is one thing you want to learn that you feel would be just the push you need to further your creative intuition?
(Simply put, what's one thing you reallllly wanna know how to do?)

 

As always, my answer:

Spoiler

1. I really want to better understand electrohouse production, sound design, and structure.

2. I want to learn more ways to streamline my workflow in Ableton, so I can spend less time navigating and more time creating.

 

Let's see what happens...

 

 

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8 hours ago, Mich said:

I really would like to learn how to produce at all. Most likeably Drum & Bass.

But I feel unless someone actually shows me IRL, I'm never gonna get started sadly enough.

@Space Kraft loves Drum & Bass!

He knows the ins and outs of that genre way better than I do!

I can definitely relate to that lack of drive but don't let it discourage you!

 

I think I may be able to help you with getting your production off the ground!

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I want to learn sound design aka Massive/Serum n how to manipulate waves, also mixdowns, fx, eq, compression..

It's my biggest wall rn, I watch a lot of videos but I can't seem to grasp it all/apply it.. I get frustrated and just close my DAW. 

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2 hours ago, UMANAX808 said:

I want to learn sound design aka Massive/Serum n how to manipulate waves, also mixdowns, fx, eq, compression..

It's my biggest wall rn, I watch a lot of videos but I can't seem to grasp it all/apply it.. I get frustrated and just close my DAW. 

First tip (and I know it may seem obvious, but you never know): R.T.F.M. (Read The Fucking Manual) (Their words not mine).

I laughed at first but honestly, looking at the manual helps so much in showing you what everything is and explaining what it does.

 

Serum also has built-in help if you hover over features long enough. IMO the learning curve is a bit harder for massive than it is for serum, as serum is a very intuitive and popular synth so there are TONS of resources and videos on it.

Rocket Powered Sounds is one of my favorite tutorial channels, even though he doesn't always have a technical explanation for stuff, he still makes quality patches in an easy to follow method.

Also - Try reverse engineering presets. By that I mean, Open up a preset, open a new instance of whichever synth it is and attempt to rebuild it from scratch. Twist all the knobs! Go crazy and experiment with the parameters that have been set, then start changing things out. Filters, Wavetables, Distortion FX, etc

and lastly, do sound design in a different session than arranging/beatmaking. Ill.gates suggests this in one of his videos. Spend time at night looking for samples, building drum racks, choosing presets, building patches. Then in the morning (or a separate session) try arranging, or just playing MIDI devices with templates you've set up beforehand. 

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21 hours ago, xDJzer0 said:

First tip (and I know it may seem obvious, but you never know): R.T.F.M. (Read The Fucking Manual) (Their words not mine).

I laughed at first but honestly, looking at the manual helps so much in showing you what everything is and explaining what it does.

 

Serum also has built-in help if you hover over features long enough. IMO the learning curve is a bit harder for massive than it is for serum, as serum is a very intuitive and popular synth so there are TONS of resources and videos on it.

Rocket Powered Sounds is one of my favorite tutorial channels, even though he doesn't always have a technical explanation for stuff, he still makes quality patches in an easy to follow method.

Also - Try reverse engineering presets. By that I mean, Open up a preset, open a new instance of whichever synth it is and attempt to rebuild it from scratch. Twist all the knobs! Go crazy and experiment with the parameters that have been set, then start changing things out. Filters, Wavetables, Distortion FX, etc

and lastly, do sound design in a different session than arranging/beatmaking. Ill.gates suggests this in one of his videos. Spend time at night looking for samples, building drum racks, choosing presets, building patches. Then in the morning (or a separate session) try arranging, or just playing MIDI devices with templates you've set up beforehand. 

These are all great bits of info! Massive is definitely  bit harder the learn, but if you master Serum first, Massive will come to you like a second language you've been exposed to your whole life. 

Rocket Powered Sounds is a GREAT tutorial channel for understanding serum, and learning how to create certains sounds and effects within the vst.
Reverse engineering is an exremely beneficial method of learning, but can be very time consuming. I cannot agree with this recommendtion enough.

ill.Gates is a greatmind! I've met the guy, hung out, taken pictures, etc, and got to pick his brain about professionalism and workflow. He does recommend a workflow process of sound design and gathering in one session, then stopping for the rest of that day and going back over 24 hours later to arrange and build.
I personally do not produce with this method, but that's just my own choice. I cannot deny the immense practicality I see with that method. Might even try to use it on some of my personal projects.

What I will add to this:

You will find resources ALL over the internet for what you want to learn, but MANY try to hone your technique to one specific style of design.
The most important thing to remember during your lessons and learning: no matter what you learn, do things your way. ALWAYS find a way to apply what you learned in your OWN way.

This is easier said than done, though, I know. @UMANAX808, I recommend starting a the ground floor, and understanding different version of sound design (synth design, audio manipulation, drum synthesis, etc.). Make alllll sorts of versions of your own sounds; bass, arps, chords, leads, impacts, one shots, whatever... But make your own. After you get suppppper good at creating stuff, start REALLY learning how to structure shit. study specific genres and study tracks for different musical cues. (sweeps, transitions, drops in certain sounds. Listen for when they FOCUS on JUST the VOCL or JUST the MELODY. Take note of these arrangement ideas.) From there, the more technical shit like mixing and mastering is much easier to understand.

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On 13.9.2017 at 1:05 PM, Mich said:

I really would like to learn how to produce at all. Most likeably Drum & Bass.

But I feel unless someone actually shows me IRL, I'm never gonna get started sadly enough.

 

On 13.9.2017 at 3:09 PM, SuperX said:

I also want to start producing, but studies and other stuff does not let me make time for it.But I won't give up.

i could offer you some lessons via skype in FL 11 if you like, thatll get you started

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i would really like to learn how to produce dubstep

i have terrible ADHD so i usually end up never getting started because i keep changing the first drum

from there, I've never learned basic sound design or arrangement.

i had logic on my other MacBook, but no DAW on this one currently, i liked the way logic was set up, but I'm curious if i should look to other DAWs for use of workflow.

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